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What to Do for Pneumonia

In this X-ray, pneumonia covers most of this child’s left lung (which is on your right when looking at the picture). It looks white because there’s not just air in there; there’s fluid and swollen tissue.

by James Hubbard, MD, MPH

I have a confession. I’m a pneumonia survivor. And it wasn’t walking pneumonia either. I was in the bed for a week.

Yes, a few years ago, The Survival Doctor ended up a whimpering mess, dependent on other people’s care. It took a good month to feel like doing much walking. But I was lucky. Each year millions in the U.S. get pneumonia, and over 50,000 die. In a prolonged disaster situation, that number would be much higher.

Symptoms and severity of pneumonia can vary greatly. Me, I thought I was as healthy as a horse, doing just fine, wasn’t even feeling sick. Then, out of the blue, I had a teeth-chattering chill. I just shook all over. After that, I started feeling weak, my heart beating fast. I wasn’t coughing much, but I took my temperature, and it was over 102 F.

I took a couple of Tylenol and crawled in the bed. Soon my bedclothes were soaked in sweat. After the Tylenol wore off, I had another chill. The cough started next, but I thought I had the flu. Now I wasn’t thinking right because anytime anyone comes to my office, otherwise healthy, and they’re running fever, I ask if they’ve had a shaking-all-over type chill. If they have, my first thought is pneumonia.

Well, luckily, after a couple of days of lying in the bed, my wife made me see a doctor, of all things. I mean, I am a doctor. Although he couldn’t hear much in my chest, a chest X-ray proved the diagnosis. I started on antibiotics, but it took me a good week to feel able to go back to work, and a month before I felt like doing anything like going on a walk.

How Did I Get It?

I came down with pneumonia just before my daughter Leigh Ann’s wedding. Though I didn’t have the walking pneumonia type, I managed to deliriously walk her down the aisle—and promptly get driven home to bed. I couldn’t even stay for the reception, so you know I’m not exaggerating when I say this thing can get bad.

Pneumonia can be divided into two very general types, community acquired and hospital acquired. The first is what will be more prevalent during a disaster—especially if many people are sheltering together.

Community Acquired Pneumonia (CAP)

I expect I got mine from breathing in bacteria left in the air from someone coughing. It could have been in some public place as easy as it could have been in my office.

Walking Pneumonia
There’s really no such official diagnosis as walking pneumonia. If you have pneumonia and you still feel like walking around, you have walking pneumonia. Okay, it is true that usually this milder version is caused by the bacteria called mycoplasma. And it’s usually treated with some sort of erythromycin antibiotic like azithromycin (Z-Pak) or clarithromycin (Biaxin) or some sort of tetracycline, like doxycycline.

Pneumococcal Pneumonia
One of the most common types of CAP, and the kind I probably had, is caused from the bacteria pneumococcus. We usually treat these with erythromycins or quinolones (Cipro, Levaquin, etc.).

Others
Legionnaire’s disease was first diagnosed in 1976 after several people attending an American Legion convention in Philadelphia came down with severe pneumonia. A bacteria now called legionella coming from the air-conditioning vent was isolated as the cause. The pneumonia can be severe but usually responds to erythromycin.

Pneumonia from the klebsiella bacteria is found in chronic smokers. Ciprofloxacin usually kills it.

Books adIn addition to bacteria, viruses are a common cause of CAP. Rarely a fungus can cause it.

Now, don’t get me wrong. Community acquired pneumonia can often be treated on an outpatient basis, but it can also be severe. You may need hospitalization, and people die each year from this type.

Hospital Acquired Pneumonia (HAP)

You are classified with this type if you’ve been in the hospital for more than a day or two and you get pneumonia. Many types of germs can cause HAP—things like MRSA from staph, other bacteria such pseudomonas, and fungi. HAP is usually treated with two or three different IV antibiotics. I won’t go into this type any further for the obvious reason that you won’t be seeing it out of the hospital

Pneumonia Diagnosis If You Can’t Get to a Doctor

As with my case, shaking chills and/or sweats is a clue, but high fever for any reason can cause that. Suspect pneumonia in someone who also has fever and a cough. Chest pain or discomfort is another clue, but it’s less common.

Often, if you have a stethoscope or put your ear on the person’s chest and you know what you’re listening for, you can hear crackles in an area of one or both lungs. If your hair is long enough, rub a few strands together next to your ear. That’s what one type of crackles (medical term—rales) sounds like. Sometimes rales can sound coarser.

Many people with pneumonia get short of breath with exertion. Some are short of breath at rest.

How Contagious Is Pneumonia?

Pneumonia is contagious but not highly so. When treating someone who has it, using a mask would be of small benefit. Better would be having fresh air if possible, along with taking the typical disease-prevention precautions such as washing your hands.

Treatment

It’s very hard to get an exact cause for the pneumonia even if you’re in the hospital. Fortunately, any antibiotic in the ciprofloxacin, erythromycin, or tetracycline family usually treats the community acquired type. Rest and fluids help also. Bring down the fever with acetaminophen (Tylenol) or ibuprofen (Advil).

I usually save the ciprofloxacin for smokers or those who appear pretty sick. Of course, the really sick ones—the ones short of breath who don’t respond to an asthma inhaler, the ones who can’t keep down fluids, the confused ones—I usually send to the hospital.

People with chronic diseases, such as heart disease, diabetes, or emphysema, are at higher risk for complications also, as are even healthy people over 65 and under age 2.

Prevention

The most common community acquired pneumonia is caused by pneumococcus bacteria or comes on after a bout of the flu. You already know about the annual flu vaccine, but you may not know that there’s a pneumococcus vaccine you can get every ten years. It doesn’t prevent them all, but it can cut down on your risk considerably. It’s usually recommended for people age 65 and older or who are at high risk for complications.

 

X-ray courtesy Mike Blyth.

  • sob zosh

    I am currently fighting coughing, pain in my r flank with coughing, sob and head congestion and also had a fever of 102.and chills.. Was on Z pak and albuterol now on Doxycycline, codeine cough med and albuterol. What I am wondering about it this:. I was taking probiotics to help with my immunity (was sick in March of this year) and a few of the probiotic capsules broke apart in the canister. If I took these and inhaled some of the loose powder (bacteria?) could this have caused my lung problem (not sure if I have pneumonia) .Are these probiotic capsules really bacteria and could they cause me to become ill if inhaled? thank you.

    • http://thesurvivaldoctor.com/ James Hubbard, MD, MPH

      I don’t know. I’m guessing you would have to have inhaled a lot for that to be a theoretical worry. And I’m guessing if that bacterial could cause an infection, it might be one that doesn’t respond to typical antibiotics. If you’re not getting better, I’d at least run it by your doctor. Also many foreign materials, if enough is inhaled, can cause a inflammatory, even allergic, reaction.

  • Andrea

    Hello, I was diagnosed with pneumonia the 6th of April. The doctor put me on levaquin for 7 days. I felt better but still not 100%. I went back to the doctor and requested another chest X-ray. She hesitated but gave in. Two days later she called me into her office to tell me I still had pneumonia. She put me back on levaquin for 7 more days. I’m doing ok other than the fact I’m really tired. No coughing or fever. I’m really concerned. Can the X-ray show any residual pneumonia?

    • http://thesurvivaldoctor.com/ James Hubbard, MD, MPH

      Many times, the last thing to clear up is your chest x-ray. After any pneumonia it takes weeks to, sometimes, months to get to feeling back to normal. However, I would get another chest x-ray in a couple of weeks (or whenever your doctor recommends) to make sure it’s finally clear.

  • Sydney

    Hi,
    Yesterday I woke up and was able to hear the mucus-y breaths going in and out of my lungs. It went away after ten mins, but I still had chest pains. I went to my swim practice and had a decent struggle to breathe, as it was painful and my chest hurt. I ran a mile after practice with my teammates and all seemed fine, the symptoms had disappeared. Today I woke up nauseous with a fever, slight chest pain, sore throat, and a mild cough. Now the nausea is gone, but my fever and risen and my chest feels tighter. Is this a simple cold or could it point to pneumonia? Not sure whether to go to the doc or not.

    • http://thesurvivaldoctor.com/ James Hubbard, MD, MPH

      If the symptoms are bad, if you’re short of breath, if you don’t get better in a few days or start getting worse, if your fever is over 101, or if you just feel like it’s more than a cold, see a doctor. You should definitely limit your exercise until you get over this.

  • liz

    my husband was just given a antibiotic shot with a local in it, for walking pneumonia, he had breathing treatment and oxygen at the dr office. he has to go back for the next 2 days for a antibiotic shot. so he says to me today he was given a death sentence. What the heck is he saying this for ? I am freaking out . I was there at the dr s today and I didn’t hear him say anything about dying. does anyone know ? I mean an antibiotic shots,breathing treatments and a vaporizer is what he was prescribed . His cough is so bad the dr wants it to loosen up . will he be ok ? and is this a disease ? or a sickness ? worried.

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Liz, ask your husband’s permission to call the doctor and ask. Or write down any questions and ask at his next visit for a shot. Any pneumonia can be serious, even fatal, but, in general, if he’s otherwise healthy, his chances are really good that he’ll get over it. It make take a week or more for him to start feeling better, and weeks to months to regain all his strength. I would think the doctor would have hospitalized him if he/she thought it was that bad. Does he smoke? Perhaps the doctor read him the riot act that he has to quit. Even if the pneumonia is serious enough for hospitalization, the CDC reports the percentage of those that die at 3.4 percent.

  • Diane

    1/19/2013 I went to Dr. short of breath. Dr had me take Azithromycin 250mg dose pack & GE pirate-album-use every 6 hrs-plus steroid shot. Diagnosis Acute Bronchitis
    1/21/13 went back to same Dr, no better. Gave me G.E. Methylprednisolone 4 MG dosepk
    2/21/13 went to Emergency room with extreme shortness of breath, sweats, chills, severe pain in back around shoulder blades and felt like Elephant sitting on my chest. Diagnosis after 2 Chest Exrays- right lower lobe pneumonia
    Gave me5 days, one per day of G.E. Levofloxacin
    I had also taken Doxycycline 100 mg capsule for 5 days
    I am a lot better but my main concern is I still short of breath, hard to breath deep.
    I have been sleeping, resting and drinking lots of water.
    Is there anything you could recommend to help the wheezing and hard to breath deep? Help

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Diane, Possibly you have some wheezing related to the injury of your lungs from the pneumonia. I have a post. http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com/tag/asthma/ but I’d ask your doctor if he/she thinks an inhaler might help. Also, you may have not given it enough time. It takes weeks, if not months, to fully recuperate from pneumonia.

  • Rich B.

    How can I tell the difference between a walking pneumonia, or an allergy asmtha episode. I am a 66 year old male, in normally good health. I have occasional allergic reactions bringing on asmtha. I normally only need an albuterol hit, once in three or four weeks. However for the last two weeks, I have had to use the albuterol once or twice a day. Mornings and night I can feel the mucous in my lungs, and end up coffing continously until I use the albuterol. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and have to use the albuterol inhaler. The asthma I can’t do anything about; however, if it is walking pneumonia, is there anything I can do fight it? Or, do I just have to let it take it take it’s course?

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Rich, walking pneumonia can and should be treated with antibiotics. Whatever the reason, it appears your breathing and asthma are getting worse, and there are several medicines you can take to make it better, depending on the cause. You should see your doctor very soon.

  • Teri Pittman

    My husband Jeffrey became ill with a high fever. We’d both been through a round of flu with the same symptoms, so I thought he’d just come down with it again. Over the next week, I tried to get him to go to the doctor, but he just didn’t want to go. One night, as we went to bed, I heard his breathing and realized that he had pneumonia. I managed to get him in the car and drove him to the emergency room. They immediately put him on oxygen and admitted him to the ICU.

    Over the next two weeks, his lungs got progressively worse, leaking more and more air into his chest. He also contracted c-diffile and had kidney failure. I finally had to have him taken off the ventilator and he died.

    I mention all of this for two reasons. One is that the sick person is probably not the best judge how sick they are. And also, you need to take this stuff very, very seriously. I don’t know if my husband’s life could have been saved, if I’d convinced him to go to the doctor when he first had that fever. I would really suggest that men especially be a bit more willing to go to the doctor. It’s not a sign of weakness.

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Thanks, Teri. I agree with you on all points.

  • tina

    my kids started passing a cold around during november. everything was ok until it hit the five year old and the two year old. both of them started sounding wheezy which our pediatricians have told us is normal for babies with fast deliveries. the five year responded well to the steamy bathroom treatments ( sitting in the bathroom with the hot water on full blast for 20 to 30 minutes and then sitting in the steam) but the two year old wasn’t responding well. when his chest started retracting in the middle of the night, we took him to the dr as soon as we could. He was then admitted into the hospital for four days. he received breathing treatments, antibiotics, steroids and spent a large majority of his time in a plastic tent. he was on another week of nebulizer treatments, prednisone and antibiotics. at his follow up appointment, the doctor was very pleased to see him back to normal and that he had even gained a little bit of weight. *he has always been a little underweight* the doctor says that pneumonia is common in the smaller kids. so its good to know that and the fact that speedy deliveries of babies can also lead to respiratory issues later. we are blessed to have had doctors who are willing to do more than just write a prescription. (it was our pediatrician who told us about the humid air trick to help ease the wheezies)

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Thanks, Tina. It’s great that you’ve found doctor’s you trust, and great that your son is back to normal.

  • Mark

    What is your feeling about Prednisone in addition to an antibiotic like Levaquin? I came down with CAP and the LNP I saw prescribed it? I don’t like the possible side effects.

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Mark, without examining you, it would be hard to answer that. One thing would be if the LNP heard any wheezing, or your oxygen level is down. If I were her patient, I’d call and get the LNP’s advice. Explain you’d rather not take the prednisone and what’s the downside of that.

      • Mark

        Thanks for the advice!

  • Herbal Chiro (Dr Zen)

    In a grid-down/austere situation I would recommend getting the patient to a chiropractor or finding a chiro that does house calls. Chiropractic care helps modulate the nervous system and the nervous system/Immune system “connectivity” is well documented. (Of course, I’m biased.)
    Immune boosting herbs (echinacea, goldenseal) would probably be of little value to a healthy adult who already is feverish and coughing for a few days or longer. The time to take those is BEFORE or WHEN exposed. With regards to mucus in lungs (or anywhere else) try fenugreek (seed powder). It will loosen mucus, which will be coughed up more easily. You can put it in capsules and take with LOTS of water (24-32oz., best if luke warm) or as a tea or a seasoning in foods if you like the taste. Lotus root is used as an expectorant in Eastern herbal medicine. If fresh root is available; grate over salads or into stir-fry. If dried powder is available (preferred) 1 level tsp stirred into 1 cup hot water with 1-2 drops tamari or soy sauce. Drink as needed. Also reported to “dry out” lungs.
    Fever is the bodies way of killing bacteria and viruses (ie it’s a good thing). I would only use aspirin or other fever reducers when fever is over 104.5 – 105 Deg F.

    As always this information is for general entertainment and/or education purposes and should not be construed as medical advise, consultation, or diagnosis. Please consult your physician is you suspect pneumonia or other infections.

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Thanks, Dr. Zen.