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What to Do for a Collapsed Lung

In this X-ray, both lungs are collapsed. The arrows point to the outside linings of the lungs. The black areas are air.

by James Hubbard, MD, MPH

I remember one patient in particular, a nurse. I was less than a year out of training. She was working on the floor when I was in the emergency room. She came up to me and said, “I think I have a collapsed lung.” She was holding the side of her chest and obviously in pain but didn’t appear short of breath.

This was a first for me—someone just coming up and self diagnosing such a thing. I asked her how she knew. She said she’d had a couple before. Ohhh. I’d read about this. If someone’s had one spontaneous collapsed lung they’re at increased risk to have another—especially among smokers, and I knew she was one of those. Their small airway walls thin out, and sometimes one can spring a leak of air into the space between the lungs and the chest wall. Voilà—collapsed lung.

Anyway, when I listened to her chest with a stethoscope, she had decreased breath sounds on the side of the chest with the pain. Her oxygen level was good, but a chest X-ray showed a small pneumothorax (partially collapsed lung). She took some anti-inflammatories and stayed off work a few days; the leak sealed over, and soon the chest X-ray (and she) was back to normal.

What Causes a Collapsed Lung

Books adA pneumothorax means air (pneumo) in the chest (thorax). This happens when air leaks into the space between your lungs and your inner chest wall.

Normally this area is what we call a “potential space” because the lungs touch the chest wall. (There’s really no space, but there could be.) When you expand your chest, your lungs keep touching the chest wall and expand also. That brings in the air we all need to breathe. If something like air or fluid gets into that potential space, it takes the place of where the lung should be. All the lung can do is reduce in size or collapse.

Reasons for a collapsed lung:

  1. A puncture from a broken rib. That’s the kind I was familiar with before the nurse.
  2. A puncture wound through the chest wall. If a knife or stick or the like punctures the chest wall, air comes pouring in from the outside.
  3. A weak spot in the lung that starts leaking. Emphysema or other smoking damage to the lungs can do this, as can asthma, pneumonia, or lung cancer. Some people are born with a little bleb, or weak spot.

These are the ones you’re going to see in the field. In a hospital setting a lung can be damaged by surgery or a procedure like a bronchoscopy (looking down into the lungs with a long, lighted tube). The added lung air-pressure of being on a ventilator can do it too.

Signs and Symptoms

Symptoms: Usually you’ll have sudden pain on the affected side of the chest, and shortness of breath.

Signs: With a stethoscope or an ear to the back of the chest, you may hear that the breath sounds are notably decreased or absent on the side of the pneumothorax.

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The definitive treatment for a large pneumothorax (collapsed lung) is a chest tube hooked up to a device that provides constant suction so the hole has time to heal. This man has a chest tube in his right lung. It’s the tube coming from under the bandage. (Most of the other tubes are monitor wires.)

Treatment

If there’s a puncture wound through the chest wall, you’ll need to seal it with something like petroleum jelly and a bandage.

Until you can get to a medical facility you’re just going to have to decrease your activities (thereby decreasing your need for extra oxygen) and take whatever you have for pain. Many leaks heal on their own.

If there is severe shortness of breath and you’re not going to be able to get expert help, as a last resort, you can stick a hollow 18- or 20-gauge needle (with a syringe on it) over the top of one of the ribs in the area where there are no breath sounds (in the back or side of the chest). The reason it should be just over the top is a nerve, artery, and vein run underneath each rib, and you don’t want to hit those.

The needle is going to need to be one-and-a-half inches, or longer, to get into the chest cavity. As you go in, pull back on the syringe. You’ll know you’re in the right place if you start pulling back air. Don’t go further or you could stick the lung and make it worse. Also there’s always the risk for infection. In other words, like most medical procedures, this can be dangerous. Only do it as a last resort in someone who looks like they’re not going to last long enough to get expert medical care.

But, if there’s a large pneumothorax (and that’s usually the case if there’s severe shortness of breath), the definitive treatment is inserting a chest tube hooked up to a device applying constant suction for several hours to a few days, to give the leak time to heal. Unless you have this in your medical kit (and some people do) you’re going to have to suck as much air out as you can with the needle and syringe until the person is breathing better or you can get help. Use a 10cc or even 50cc syringe if you have it so you’ll only need to stick it in once or twice. Of course some holes never heal without surgery.

Caution

One other thing. You can get something called a tension pneumonthorax. Instead of the air pressure equalizing, the leak becomes a one-way valve. It pushes air in, but the air cannot escape. This puts enough pressure on the heart and other lung that it becomes a true emergency. The blood pressure drops and the pulse increases. Often the person becomes less alert and may lose consciousness. The heart may even stop. The treatment is relieving the pressure immediately. More on that in another post.

 

Have any of you ever had a collapsed lung? How did it happen? What were your symptoms? How was it treated?

 

X-ray courtesy Morgan Le Guen, Catherine Beigelman, Belaid Bouhemad, Yang Wenjïe, Frederic Marmion [CC-BY-2.0], via Wikimedia Commons. Collapsed-lung patient photo by Kairuuinzuro on Flickr.

  • Alicia

    I’m a 17 year old female, And i went through an accident,at 9:30pm on Wed, January 16 2013 where I had fallen from 20ft off a roof in the winter time, which caused me to have a tension Pneumothorax, (Also fractured ribs, and a broken ankle) I did get attached to a Chest tube, Which was in from Thursday, January 17, that was put in at 4am. and it finally got removed Monday January 21st. My tension Pnemothorax was cause due to the amount of pressure slammed into my lung, & the way I had landed. It was the worst pain I had ever felt in my life.

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Alicia, wow. I guess you’re pretty lucky you didn’t get hurt even worse.

  • Joy

    I had a collapsed lung in 1979, left top lobe, they said it was a weak spot in my lung. Was almost the scariest thing I had ever dealt with, I say almost because the worse was yet to come once I got to the hospital and trust me I wouldn’t want this done by anyone that wasn’t a surgeon, its an extremely painful procedure, one I will never forget!

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Thanks, Joy.

  • Janie

    Dr. Hubbard, As always, thank you for sharing your common sense expertise with us. You helped me a few weeks ago with my child who had strep and a questionable rash. I’m forever grateful. He’s fine, by the way! I worked for several years with a physician who was prone to having a spontaneous pneumothorax anytime and anywhere. He was,and is, still the tiniest full-grown man I’ve ever known in my life, and he was also an African-American non-smoker. He had actually put in his own chest tube on more than one occasion! I wish I could remember more of what he said about the etiology of his particular case. It was something about his incredibly small stature coupled with his ethnicity. Literally, he bought his clothes from the boys section and I believe it was a child’s size 10! I just thought this would interest you, if you had never heard of this specific etiology. Again, thank you for all you do.

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Yes, that is very interesting. And I can’t imagine putting a chest tube into my own chest. Thanks.

  • old RT

    So ! In a medical lacking situation ( No medical facility , no exray, etc. ) what should one do (an experienced medical personnel, Nurse, Therapist, EMT). We access there is a “dropped Lung” , MOSTLY DO TO LACK OF BREATH SOUNDS (oops caps sorry) chest percussion resonance, etc. I agree if it is small then rest and allow for it to resolve on own, but if the situation is more critical what should “we” be consaidering next ?

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Old RT, With a sudden onset of chest pain on one side of the chest and severe shortness of breath, and no breath sounds on the side of the pain. I’d try to aspirate air with a needle and syringe. You’d need a large syringe (50 ccs?) or aspirate, bring the needle out, blow out the air and stick the needle in again. If this helped but the problem slowly recurred as bad as ever, you’d need a makeshift suction tube with a water seal. I will have to do some digging to find out if that would be feasible.

  • http://TraceMyPreps.com Trace

    Another good post. While chest wall/lung traumatic injuries are very scary, as you’ve said they can, and do, frequently heal on their own (or with a little assistance). While getting shot or stabbed is something I try to avoid, I’d rather it be through the (side) of the chest wall than the abdominal cavity, especially if there was no outside medical help available.

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      True, Trace. Let’s hope neither ever happens.

  • Teri

    I found your web page a few weeks ago. I’m a new EMT with 10 years experience as a CNA. I get SO much out of each newsletter. Your posts give me a greater understanding of conditions and treatments than I learned in the classroom. I live rural with limited hospital care and potential for weather that could make travel nearly impossible. It’s great to know what could be done at home if things went bad!

    • http://www.thesurvivaldoctor.com James Hubbard, M.D., M.P.H.

      Thanks, Teri. I’m glad you like them.